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Riz Khan- Morality and Religon- 11 Aug 08- Part 2



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Are Morality and Religion interwined? Or can people be pious without being religous?
Riz Khan and his guests take on one of the most famous questions in ethics.


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That nonreligious ... ( 4 months ago by sharshur)
That nonreligious guy is a liar. The hijackers were not pious. They were murdering, womanizing, drinking kufar. Religion is not the cause of terrorism, it's a means some people use.
religion isnt the ... ( 4 months ago by themengsk176)
religion isnt the cause of terrorism?
funny, i don't see many secular or atheist people bombing abortion clinics. if anything, it's the extreme forms of self imposed abstinence that causes much of the problem.
secular people don't tell their kids that their own urges and bodies are evil. maybe if the 9/11 hijackers had wives or regular relationships they wouldnt have been so eager to go to heaven for access to virgins.
Uh, I think you're ... ( 4 months ago by sharshur)
Uh, I think you're confusing what you are arguing against. I don't believe in teaching kids their bodies or urges are evil, so... go talk to some christian dude. And, uh, they did have regular girlfriends, in addition to strippers and hookers. WTH is your point? go work for Fox or something Mr. Conventional Wisdom. You're boring me.
Sharshur, you are ... ( 4 months ago by vaillancourtroch)
Sharshur, you are then not a real Christian. if you follow the literal teachings of Christianity, sexual urges are sinful. Oh, sorry. I forgot you get to pick and chose which verses of the bible you like. I apologize.
Sharshur, you are ... ( 4 months ago by vaillancourtroch)
Sharshur, you are then not a real Christian. if you follow the literal teachings of Christianity, sexual urges are sinful. Oh, sorry. I forgot you get to pick and chose which verses of the bible you like. I apologize.
Uh, who said I was ... ( 4 months ago by sharshur)
Uh, who said I was a Christian???
You indicated you ... ( 4 months ago by vaillancourtroch)
You indicated you were, obviously. Reread your post buddy. Apology accepted, if you're not.
WHAT? You go reread ... ( 4 months ago by sharshur)
WHAT? You go reread you retard. I specifically said, "go talk to some christian dude."
Apology accepted. ... ( 4 months ago by vaillancourtroch)
Apology accepted. It goes to show how you don't know the Christians. You think that taking to "some Christian" on this matter will shed some light on the matter? You'll get a different anwser from most of them. Talking to a Christian is the last thing you should do if you want answers. Why not just read some good philosophy or any book on the subject. I suggest avoiding anyone with a religious background. Read some Richard Dawkins, Dan Dennett, Sam Harris.
I have to say that ... ( 4 months ago by vaillancourtroch)
I have to say that your post is misleading. You said " I don't believe in teaching kids their bodies or urges are evil". You then go on to say "go talk to some Christian dude". These two comments support each other perfectly. Any reasonable person would think that, after reading these comments, you are Christian. Which is fine by the way. I respect that people can hold whatever belief they chose.
What I was saying ... ( 4 months ago by sharshur)
What I was saying is that I am a religious person but if you want to find those specific beliefs, perhaps one should consult christianity, since I am not a christian. Also, what I meant by that is that the previous poster was generalizing to all religions based on his view of christianity. And you very clearly were making fun of christians so I find it hard to believe that you "respect" people. I did not apologize. Apologize for what? You are odd.
Sharshur, I never ... ( 4 months ago by vaillancourtroch)
Sharshur, I never said I respect people. Or more to the point, I never said I respect people's belief. What I did say is that I respect that people can hold whatever belief they chose. That's very different. And I stand by that.
Sharshur, I never ... ( 4 months ago by vaillancourtroch)
Sharshur, I never said I respect people. Or more to the point, I never said I respect people's belief. What I did say is that I respect that people can hold whatever belief they chose. That's very different. And I stand by that. (sorry for the reposting, I'm new to this and I realize that I'm doing it wrong)
And Sharshur, that ... ( 4 months ago by vaillancourtroch)
And Sharshur, that previous poster might have been generalizing based on Christianity. But unfortunately, teaching kids that sexual urges is a sin applies to most major religions. Therefore, I say, it's a fair and accurate generalization.
And Sharshur, that ... ( 4 months ago by vaillancourtroch)
And Sharshur, that previous poster might have been generalizing based on Christianity. But unfortunately, teaching kids that sexual urges is a sin applies to most major religions. Therefore, I say, it's a fair and accurate generalization.
No crimes have been ... ( 4 months ago by L0vethehater)
No crimes have been commited in the name of atheism,this guy is full of it.Many crimes have been commited in the name of religion though.
The tactic of ... ( 4 months ago by maninthebox3863)
The tactic of proving atheism or Christianity to be "better" by highlighting the other side's mass murders is fallacious. Bad people will do immoral things whether they believe in a God or not and they will justify their actions based on religion or the lack thereof. Instead these commentators should stick to the main question. In my opinion religion arose as a result of our inner drive to have some kind of morality. We were not "inspired" by religion but rather religion was inspired by us.
"In the name of" is ... ( 4 months ago by Rsambo00)
"In the name of" is an inaccurate phrase when it comes to deciphering motives of mass murdering political leaders. Perhaps, it would be better to say that the likes of Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Castro etc. were able to slay a mountain of people "as the result of" their deep routed beliefs in atheism . Now, the same can be said of religious people but, you just can't compare the levels of carnage. Hence, there is something intrinsically evil with a Darwinian perspective on humanity.
Dinesh is such a ... ( 4 months ago by analubalitious)
Dinesh is such a hack.
Your own statement ... ( 4 months ago by rjbonacolta)
Your own statement clearly contradicts your conclusion.
None of those ... ( 4 months ago by rjbonacolta)
None of those leaders had a "Darwinian" prespective, please read Overy's Dictators before you make an ass of yourself.
Leave it to the ... ( 4 months ago by Rsambo00)
Leave it to the pomposity of an atheist to make that comment as you completely evade countering even the spirit of the argument!
If you are suggesting that the above leaders aren't atheist then, that is your right. But, you would be standing outside the realm of commonly accepted historical data.
I made several ... ( 4 months ago by maninthebox3863)
I made several statements. Maybe you can be a little more specific.
I will add that all ... ( 4 months ago by maninthebox3863)
I will add that all people have morals but, because morals are not universal, some will perceive others' moral code as immoral. So "bad" is relative.
Regardless, we all have some kind of moral code, and religion was born out of our need to express that function of ourselves.



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